Episode 43
Miami’s First-in-the-Nation All-Electric Transit Operations Center with Eulois Cleckley and Angel Andre Chavarria
Miami's First-in-the-Nation All-Electric Transit Operations Center with Eulois Cleckley and Angel Andre Chavarria
Around the world agencies are switching to low or no carbon buses and with that change comes an even bigger challenge: infrastructure. Battery electric, hydrogen fuel cell, even CNG buses, all require new and different refueling/recharging systems, different maintenance set ups, and sometimes even completely different spaces.
This week you'll get to hear about a bus garage that is the first-of-its-kind in the U.S, a state-of-the-are facility designed to house, charge, and repair 100, 60 foot battery electric articulated buses. These buses will be a core part of a new 20 mile, all electric Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) line in Miami.
Eulois Cleckley, CEO of Miami-Dade Dept. of Public Works and Transportation gives host Paul Comfort all the details why this facility is crucial for fast-growing Miami and then WSP SVP Angel Andre Chavarria tell us how they overcame huge challenges in planning and construction to make it possible and break ground.
Next week on the show we head to Austria to learn all about Vienna's amazing multi-modal transit system with Wiener Linien CEO Alexandra Rienagl.
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0:00 Miami's First-in-the-Nation All-Electric Transit Operations Center with Eulois Cleckley and Angel Andre Chavarria
00:04 Introduction from host Paul Comfort
00:21 Miami Dade's New Transit Operations Center
00:51 Meet the Guests: Eulois Cleckley and Angel Andre Chavarria
02:19 Innovative Features of the New Facility
04:33 Groundbreaking Ceremony and Construction Details
08:04 Funding this massive and critical project
09:43 Challenging construction, innovative solutions
16:08 Additional Support and Community Benefits
18:43 Future of Miami's Public Transportation
22:28 Coming up next week on Transit Unplugged
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Transcript
Hi, I'm Paul Comfort and this is Transit Unplugged, the world's
Speaker:leading podcast diving into all things public transportation.
Speaker:We are the location for transit nerds to find out what's happening, the
Speaker:latest and greatest in the industry.
Speaker:And man, have we got a great show for you today.
Speaker:Get this, the Miami Dade County Department of Transportation and Public Works has
Speaker:broken ground and begun construction on their state of the art transit operations
Speaker:center that will charge, service, operate, and maintain and house its new sustainable
Speaker:fleet of battery electric buses.
Speaker:This facility is the first of its kind in the U.
Speaker:S.
Speaker:And is the first all electric facility and the first to accommodate
Speaker:up to 100 articulated, zero emission, battery electric buses.
Speaker:And as our guest for today's show, excited to have my good friend Eulois
Speaker:Cleckley who is Director and CEO of the Miami Dade County Department
Speaker:of Transportation and Public Works.
Speaker:And joining him is the fellow who is in charge of overseeing the
Speaker:construction, Angel Chaverria who is Senior Vice President and Alternative
Speaker:Delivery Project Director at WSP.
Speaker:this is a great, innovative program they've got going on down there, and Get
Speaker:this, they're going to use this garage to help facilitate their brand new 20
Speaker:mile BRT line with all electric vehicles.
Speaker:It's going to have 14 iconic stations that are already under construction and this is
Speaker:I mean, like I tell Eulois on this show, I mean, you guys got it all going on.
Speaker:It's the center of gravity for all things cool and new, I think, is coming
Speaker:to Miami and this is no exception.
Speaker:Dive in with me now as we talk to Eulois and Angel, unpacking this
Speaker:great new project coming to Miami.
Speaker:Eulois, thanks for being on the show again.
Speaker:Yes, Paul.
Speaker:It's always great to be here, so I appreciate it.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:And we've also got, with us on the show today, Angel Chaviera.
Speaker:Who is, it was SVP with, WSP.
Speaker:Good, a lot of initials.
Speaker:Angel, thanks for being with us today, man.
Speaker:You're welcome, glad to be here.
Speaker:Yeah, man, great to have you here.
Speaker:in addition to being Senior Vice President of WSP, you're also the Alternative
Speaker:Delivery Project Director, which is what we're going to talk about today.
Speaker:A great new project for an alternative source of energy, which a lot of
Speaker:transit agencies are looking at, which is battery electric buses.
Speaker:The other big ones on the scene right now, obviously, are hydrogen power, and
Speaker:then some people are still looking at CNG as all kind of lower and no emissions.
Speaker:Eulois, what's the game plan there in Miami?
Speaker:What, what brought you all to this?
Speaker:You are, you are building, I think, the first and largest of its
Speaker:kind battery electric bus garage.
Speaker:100 60 foot articulated buses, man.
Speaker:That's massive.
Speaker:Yeah, it is.
Speaker:And, we are excited about this opportunity for building out what we call the
Speaker:nation's, if not the world's largest, all, battery electric bus, innovative
Speaker:transportation operations center.
Speaker:and we affectionately named this project the South Dade Transit Operations Center.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:and that's, that was done purposefully because it's more
Speaker:than just a place to store buses.
Speaker:we are.
Speaker:Embarking on essentially a revolution in transportation and mobility here in
Speaker:South Dade, one from a, energy standpoint, with respect to ensuring that we're
Speaker:meeting the goals that's been set by our current administration and our Board
Speaker:of County Commissioners to electrify our fleet, where right now we, plan
Speaker:to have, upwards to 10 percent of our fleet, between 10 and 20 percent of our
Speaker:fleet to be all electric, buses, and, the second piece of that is that we are
Speaker:expanding, rapid transit options for those that live here in the county, and,
Speaker:and this project was critical on both of those fronts, because we are building
Speaker:the longest all battery electric BRT bus rapid transit system in the world.
Speaker:It's 20 miles along our existing, transit way that will connect, the furthest
Speaker:municipality called Florida City to eventually downtown, Miami and, provide
Speaker:great, great service and connections there from a mass transit standpoint.
Speaker:So in order for us to be able to fulfill, those two, high level, initiatives.
Speaker:We needed to have a new facility and that's what this facility will provide.
Speaker:The South Dade Transit Operations Center will be one that will be innovative, state
Speaker:of the art, and will provide a fantastic facility for not only our buses to be
Speaker:charged in an efficient manner, but also for all of our employees to enjoy as they
Speaker:provide great service for the county.
Speaker:Very, very, great description of it.
Speaker:So on, on Tuesday, June 25th, the Miami Dade County Mayor, Daniela Levine
Speaker:Cava, and Miami Dade County Commission Chairman, Oliver Gilbert, along with
Speaker:you, I imagine, Eulois, a bunch of other people, broke ground on this project, huh?
Speaker:We did, we got a little bit dirty because actually, there was active
Speaker:construction going on that day, so it was great to see our contractors
Speaker:really hit the ground running.
Speaker:As soon as we got approval from our board, we issued a notice to proceed very
Speaker:quickly and the team has done a great job.
Speaker:and this was, the entire process, was extremely innovative from how
Speaker:we essentially needed to pivot.
Speaker:to make sure that we're delivering this project in accordance with the
Speaker:schedule that we were laying out.
Speaker:So we needed to be very aggressive and accelerate a lot of phases of the project.
Speaker:And, and, very proud of, of our ability to be able to, deliver
Speaker:on this most important project.
Speaker:It wasn't without, gnashing of teeth, everything from
Speaker:finding the actual location.
Speaker:we had to work with the, District Commissioner, Commissioner Keoni McGee,
Speaker:to, actually use 20, of a 47 acre property that Miami Dade County owned, which was
Speaker:actually a surplus property right near the Air Force Base there in Homestead.
Speaker:And we were able to leverage that property basically at a nominal
Speaker:cost for the county to build this facility and at the same time actually
Speaker:satisfy a community need to provide.
Speaker:an, an entertainment district, for this, this area within the county.
Speaker:And so, we were able to, get to a point where we, used 20 acres of this
Speaker:particular site for our purposes and the other, 27 acres are going to be used for
Speaker:entertainment district in the future.
Speaker:So, it's, it's ultimately going to be a, a win win for the community, for our
Speaker:service, and, and we're looking forward to, to delivering this project on time
Speaker:and on budget in the next year and a half.
Speaker:Miami really is, Eulois kind of, you and I have had this conversation
Speaker:before, but, to me, it's the new center of gravity, for kind of
Speaker:what's exciting happening in America.
Speaker:it's, you know, New York City's always been considered, you know, a hub, and L.
Speaker:A.
Speaker:and Chicago, the big cities, but, Tech and all the excitement, the
Speaker:sports teams, the great weather, I mean Miami's got it all going on.
Speaker:It's really, to your point, the epicenter, I think, of what not only would be the U.
Speaker:S.,
Speaker:but eventually probably the world, right?
Speaker:Everybody kind of points to Miami as what's going on new, what's fresh
Speaker:and innovative, and And I think there's a, there's a culture and
Speaker:energy here that people appreciate.
Speaker:that's why we continue to see more people moving, to, to South Florida.
Speaker:and, and of course with that, it's our job on, the public sector side, and especially
Speaker:those of us who are in infrastructure and transportation to make sure that we
Speaker:are supporting all the people that are moving here, from a mobility standpoint.
Speaker:And, always looking at ways to be more efficient and provide
Speaker:better service moving forward.
Speaker:And so, this project really exemplifies that, where we're trying to be future
Speaker:ready, as our mayor says, for that type of growth and to be able to support,
Speaker:really more efficient, ways for people to be able to get around, at the same
Speaker:time, while people move down here, the cost of living has skyrocketed.
Speaker:And so that merger between, access, good solid, reliable transportation at
Speaker:a good cost will allow people to stay here, within the county and allow, a
Speaker:good solid way for the employee base to continue to grow moving forward.
Speaker:To pay for this 245 million project, the agency was able to tap into the People's
Speaker:Transportation Plan, or PTP, which is a half penny surtax that started in
Speaker:2002 exactly for projects like this, making sure South Florida's mass transit
Speaker:could expand as the population grew.
Speaker:Eulois continued to say that this project's goal is to serve the fastest
Speaker:growing part of the county now and into the future, while also making sure
Speaker:everything they do is done sustainably.
Speaker:we wanted this project to ensure that we are using this new facility.
Speaker:to be able to help support our South Corridor, our BRT project, but also we
Speaker:plan on, having this facility be one that will really service the fastest
Speaker:growing area within the county, which is, which is, this kind of the southern
Speaker:part in a municipal, municipalities in the southern part of the county.
Speaker:We do have several, local bus routes as well, that, require, 60 foot
Speaker:articulated buses to be able to serve.
Speaker:And this will be again a great facility that will be closer to where those routes
Speaker:originate from and still be in a position where we can actually use a battery
Speaker:electric bus to provide an emissions free type of environment for those communities.
Speaker:but also save energy.
Speaker:taxpayer dollars over time, which is, which is always critical, making
Speaker:sure that we are, are doing good site placement, for these types of
Speaker:facilities to reduce overall costs.
Speaker:this is the first time in the past 40 years that we've been in a position
Speaker:to actually build a new operations center that services our, our buses
Speaker:from a maintenance standpoint and overall operations standpoint.
Speaker:From the construction timeline to features like lifts to reach the top of buses,
Speaker:this facility is packed with innovations.
Speaker:Inside and out, solar power, xeriscaping around the building,
Speaker:everything to make this one of the most sustainable and efficient
Speaker:transportation centers in the world.
Speaker:The whole facility will be 8 or 9 buildings with over 400, 000 square
Speaker:feet of space, a massive undertaking for any project, but in this case,
Speaker:there were extra challenges that needed innovative solutions to solve.
Speaker:Beyond having to compress a 40 acre project into 20 acres, they
Speaker:were in completely uncharted waters for a critical part of the
Speaker:building's design, fire protection.
Speaker:So I asked WSP's Angel Chaviera about his role and some of the challenges they faced
Speaker:to get a project like this off the ground.
Speaker:Tell us about your role and what WSP is doing.
Speaker:Yes, as the director said, basically, the county needed to pivot, so they
Speaker:came to us to see if we could basically deliver this facility, and we took an
Speaker:innovative approach, and because, again, what's critical is the schedule, so we
Speaker:were basically tasked with the design of the facility, so WSP is basically
Speaker:the designer, during the design phase, we did that in about 10, 10 months.
Speaker:We went from a 15 percent conceptual design to a 100 percent set of plans,
Speaker:and we had to overlap some phases in the project schedule in order to accelerate,
Speaker:you know, and get to construction so that the facility could be opened up
Speaker:in time, by when the buses were going to come, and, and that's basically
Speaker:when the county is envisioning to start revenue service on the, BRT corridor.
Speaker:Construction started on June 10th of this year, and WSP we're basically
Speaker:doing construction administration, you know, reviewing shop drawings,
Speaker:RFIs, And making sure assisting the contractor stay on, on track
Speaker:Angel, as I was researching this, one other very, Innovative design I thought
Speaker:was this retractable platform which is installed on on the bus rooftops where
Speaker:the batteries are charged so that when the bus backs in the maintenance staff
Speaker:can step directly on and off the roof.
Speaker:Can you tell us about that and why that was included and what that's
Speaker:going to do to make things better?
Speaker:good question, Paul.
Speaker:You did your research.
Speaker:that's a very excellent feature that we introduced to this.
Speaker:Obviously, you see that in, in rail and transit projects, and I
Speaker:have a transit background myself, a rail and transit background.
Speaker:So, in, in our team, WSP team basically wanted to bring lessons learned from
Speaker:other projects, and, and, as the director said, we want to provide the
Speaker:best facility possible for staff, to do their, you know, their daily work.
Speaker:so this, this platform, retractable platform, provides the ability for
Speaker:staff to do their job in a safe manner.
Speaker:and basically without any, fall protection.
Speaker:Which means it's hands free, right?
Speaker:They're basically, you know, the, when the busback's in, the
Speaker:platformers are retracted, the bus can pull back in, you know, once it's
Speaker:docked, the, the platformers extend and they basically touch the bus.
Speaker:They have a rubber, We have a compound that extends for the length
Speaker:of the platform so it won't damage the bus and makes contacts and
Speaker:that's how it knows where to stop.
Speaker:Basically, people are able to step on and off and provide, you know, a working
Speaker:platform where they can basically not have to worry about having fall
Speaker:protection or ladders, which, again, is about efficiency, right, and safety.
Speaker:So we introduced this element for those reasons.
Speaker:And, and, and most of the equipment, Paul, is on top of the roof.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:that's where the panto graphs are and, and the fuel cells for the buses and the ac.
Speaker:So it's basically, it affords the opportunity for staff to gain access
Speaker:to those systems on top of them.
Speaker:So, Angel, one of the interesting things about building a facility like this, not
Speaker:only is the fact that you've got to get it rolling in the next year or two, right?
Speaker:Portions will open next summer and then the whole thing will open in two years.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:But also, I'm sure, an innovative facility like this, you
Speaker:came across some challenges.
Speaker:Tell us about what they might have been and how you've addressed them.
Speaker:Yeah, one in particular challenge that we faced was the fire
Speaker:protection for the parking garage.
Speaker:As the Director mentioned previously, the site was originally a much larger 40 acre
Speaker:site, and it got reduced to 20 acres.
Speaker:And in order for us to fit the entire program, We basically had to go vertical,
Speaker:you know, trying to fit a hundred circulated buses in an addition, you know,
Speaker:employee parking for all the employees.
Speaker:We basically had to build a structure at one, on one level parking garage.
Speaker:And basically, the program calls for the buses to charge on the first level.
Speaker:we engaged the fire department at the very beginning and we developed a methodology.
Speaker:We brought in our tunnel experts from WSP to basically develop a, methodology
Speaker:A design methodology that we use on tunnels, and we basically develop
Speaker:a model, and the model basically predicts, the curve, the heat curve
Speaker:that is generated by these buses.
Speaker:So, once we develop the heat curve and the methodology we presented it to the
Speaker:fire department, given that there are no codes, we want to make sure that
Speaker:they were on board with what we were doing in terms of analysis and design.
Speaker:And when it came down to submitting the plans for permitting, we got it.
Speaker:Basically, zero comments on the design because everything was vetted, with
Speaker:the independent reviewer and, and the fire department, and what that
Speaker:entailed was basically we provided several measures of protections.
Speaker:One was a physical.
Speaker:Meaning physical in terms of, clearances between the buses and the structure
Speaker:itself, making sure that the, you know, that we had sufficient height between the
Speaker:bottom of the structure and the buses.
Speaker:The second was basically a fire sprinkler system that is partitioned in zones.
Speaker:Obviously, being a large garage, we cannot have, the entire system
Speaker:going up once because they're just, the volume of water is tremendous.
Speaker:as you know, as you may know.
Speaker:battery electric fires you cannot put out.
Speaker:You can only contain.
Speaker:So that the design methodology is basically to contain the fire, preventing
Speaker:from spreading into other buses and limiting the damage to the structure.
Speaker:And then the third phase that we did, Paul, is basically we're
Speaker:adding a passive fire protection.
Speaker:it's, it's basically to all the structure and this what it does is
Speaker:insulates the structure from heat.
Speaker:That way we prevent spalling and the heat getting to the structure.
Speaker:We want to make sure that the structure integrally remains as is.
Speaker:Eulois, you mentioned that this is not just going to be a bus garage where you
Speaker:charge and maintain, but you're going to have other things going on there.
Speaker:Tell us about that.
Speaker:Right, what is an exciting aspect of this facility is that, we are,
Speaker:going to be adding in additional support, types of, activities.
Speaker:And so the biggest one is our, emergency, backup.
Speaker:for bus operations.
Speaker:And so you have to have that type of redundancy that's necessary,
Speaker:especially in South Florida, where even though our weather is great, there
Speaker:are times where you have inclement weather and you need to be prepared
Speaker:to be able to respond effectively.
Speaker:So we're excited about that.
Speaker:We're also excited about the fact that we will have, more
Speaker:administrative space, than we, what we previously have been, working with.
Speaker:with, our three existing, bus garages.
Speaker:this really needs to be a community asset.
Speaker:So one, having the, space for training for our operators, but
Speaker:also a communal space for, for the overall public is something that we've
Speaker:included in this specific design.
Speaker:So it can truly be an asset that can be considered one that's valuable,
Speaker:for the surrounding neighborhood.
Speaker:and, but also other amenities that sometimes you don't pay
Speaker:attention to because we're so focused on having a facility just
Speaker:to maintain our buses and the like.
Speaker:but we're going to have a, we're going to have a space that is there
Speaker:to maintain the gate arms that we're going to be using on our BRT system.
Speaker:So that's important to have that type of, location for our crews to
Speaker:be able to, consistently maintain those gate arms in an effective way.
Speaker:But also, amenities for, for our.
Speaker:employees that will be housed out of this facility, we anticipate of having
Speaker:approximately 270 jobs, that are created, as a part of, building this, facility.
Speaker:And it's important, that for all of those positions where people have to show up
Speaker:to work, and, and our operators who are taxed every single day to do their job,
Speaker:that they have places to relax, and alike, and, and, and wind down, from
Speaker:their day, and so we are building, some unique spaces, driver lounges and the like
Speaker:that will allow, folks to relax and then also building, a place for individuals
Speaker:to take care of themselves and work out and have a wellness center as well.
Speaker:So it's an opportunity to do what's best in the industry to take care of our, of
Speaker:our employees so they can go out and do their jobs to the best of their ability.
Speaker:That sounds exciting.
Speaker:I hope in two years we can come down and show the world on our TV show,
Speaker:some of the garage, because it sounds like it's going to be groundbreaking
Speaker:technology and service for, you know, your customers as well as your employees.
Speaker:Let's talk about what this is going to serve.
Speaker:So you've got this phenomenal, cutting edge, state of the art
Speaker:electric bus garage, charging facility, maintenance facility, plus
Speaker:all your administrative offices.
Speaker:And then that's going to serve your brand new BRT.
Speaker:Tell us how that all ties together and what the BRT is going to look like.
Speaker:For
Speaker:we are very close to being substantially complete, with our 20 mile all battery
Speaker:electric bus operated, bus rapid transit system, where we are building actually
Speaker:what we call 14 iconic BRT stations, so these stations will we'll have, air
Speaker:conditioned vestibules, we'll have, ticket vending machines and the like, we'll
Speaker:be level platform boarding, have travel information, screens and the like, and,
Speaker:we'll, all be covered, and one that's kind of climate controlled for, for customers.
Speaker:So we're very excited about this.
Speaker:We've been working very diligently on erecting all of these 14 stations and
Speaker:it's amazing to see how people are now starting to react and understand
Speaker:what we're actually building because it's not just your regular bus stop.
Speaker:We are building something that is really going to be phenomenal and one
Speaker:that is going to be at the highest levels of design and construction.
Speaker:for this type of BRT service.
Speaker:We are on track with being substantially complete with all 14 stations by
Speaker:the end of, this year, with the intent of being in revenue service
Speaker:at the beginning part of 2025.
Speaker:And so that's why it's necessary to, to make sure that, we work with our partners
Speaker:in the industry, WSP and the like, to be able to design the operations center.
Speaker:And in a very expedited manner, but also to be able to bring on a contractor
Speaker:to build this facility in accordance with the schedule that we've laid
Speaker:out, we've also received two test buses, the 60 foot articulated buses.
Speaker:These are New Flyer buses that are, again, all battery electric operated vehicles.
Speaker:we are, in the initial stages of testing, not only the, range on, the specific
Speaker:vehicle, but also how they interact with our BRT stations moving forward.
Speaker:And, and our, our vendor, New Fly, has been doing a good job in keeping up
Speaker:with their production schedules and the like to make sure we're staying on
Speaker:track with the overall project schedule.
Speaker:So, so we're excited about this project.
Speaker:This project, again, is one of the corridors in our
Speaker:People's Transportation Plan.
Speaker:this project was funded, by the county at a hundred million dollars, by
Speaker:the state, the Florida Department of Transportation, a hundred million,
Speaker:and then FTA, at a hundred million.
Speaker:And, we're working actively to bring this project to fruition and once it's built
Speaker:and complete, When it gets into revenue service, it will be a game changer for
Speaker:people living in the southern part of the county, where, somebody living in Florida
Speaker:City, if they want to, travel to downtown, it's, it's essentially taking them,
Speaker:an hour and 45 minutes, on a good day.
Speaker:by this new service, this will reduce that travel time by over 30 percent.
Speaker:And people will have around a 45 minute travel time from that
Speaker:southern municipality that we have here in the county to downtown.
Speaker:The other aspect of the corridor that we're building is that the 20 miles for
Speaker:the BRT, we'll actually, end up connecting you to a new intermodal facility that
Speaker:we're building that will be able to transfer people from the BRT service
Speaker:on to our existing Metro Rail service.
Speaker:and that way they can take our, our Metro Rail to go downtown and, and
Speaker:to other, locations, between Dayland South and, and downtown, Miami.
Speaker:So, so we're, we're excited about this and this is a project that the
Speaker:community has been waiting on and, and we're really in a great position
Speaker:to, Remain on budget and on schedule.
Speaker:That's
Speaker:wonderful, Eulois you really
Speaker:have it all going on.
Speaker:And thank you for taking this time today to share it with us,
Speaker:Hey, thank you for listening to this really fascinating
Speaker:episode of Transit Unplugged.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Tris Hussey editor of the podcast.
Speaker:And I'd like to thank our guests.
Speaker:Eulois Cleckley and Angel Andre Cheverria for their time to talk to
Speaker:us about this amazing electric bus charging and maintenance facility.
Speaker:Now coming up next week, we go across the pond to Europe and Vienna.
Speaker:We hear from Alexndra Rheingold, CEO of
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